Time
2023-09-15
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I: Fine, now we go to another picture registered with the number 2018_18542-1, what is the name of this thing?
R1: It is ‘ingimeta’.
I: This first one here?
R1: Yes, the first one.
I: Fine, and how is this ‘ingimeta’ used?
R2: This is for the ladies, it is a belt. If a girl has reached 9 years old, this is made, and she starts wearing it and it is completely her belt.
I: And this ‘emutha’?
R1: This ‘emutha emborosi’, she ties it around her waist. It is only worn by women.
I: From what age is this tied on the waist?
R1: She wears it when she is 10, 15, 20 years old, but when she reaches the age of getting married, she leaves both because she has reached an adulthood stage, so she no longer wears them; hence she leaves them to the children to wear.
I: Is there anything else she wears different from that?
R1: It is the belt, on her ear, and the beads.
I: So those are worn when she is still a young girl?
R1: Yes, she is still a young girl. If you find her putting on these, she is still a child and not married.
I: So, at what age does childhood end?
R2: When she is 15 or 20 years old. We can say when she gets her husband, that is when she leaves them.
I: So, this ingimeta is worn outside?
R1: Yes.
I: And the ‘emutha emborosi’?
R1: It is worn inside.
I: Fine, and it is only for the ladies?
R1: Yes, only for the ladies.
I: Fine, and what was the importance?
R1: It's just a decoration, it's decoration worn by the lady, and she looks good so that if a boy sees her, she is attractive, hahaha.
I: Hahaha, so it was to make them look good?
R2: Yes.
I: And becoming attractive to the community?
R2: Yes.
I: Fine, are they currently still in use?
R1: Up to this moment, they are still in use.
I: Who makes them?
R1: They are the women, and nowadays they have improved more. It is not like in previous times; nowadays they are making them nicely and better.
I: At what age do the mothers start making them?
R1: Starting from 20 years old. By the way, this has no specific level. Even if she is 15 years old and knows how, she can make it. You can find an adult who does not know how to make it. So, it is a skill—any age can make it.
I: And what materials were used to make this?
R2: Skin.
I: A skin?
R2: Yes, this is skin. Don’t you see it is turned to the other side where it is being used?
I: And these are beads?
R2: Yes, those are beads.
I: The way those colors are mixed, was there any meaning?
R1: It is decorated. The beads are put on their part, this one in its part, and the other one as well.
I: So, it was made to make it more attractive?
R1: To be more attractive, like this one you see here.
I: Yes.
R2: And that one as well has the decorations.
I: And what kind of skin is it?
R1: It is a cow’s skin.
I: ‘Emutha emborosi’?
R1: Yes, a waist bead.
I: But my wife has already passed this age, hahaha.
R1: Hahahaha, if you want it, she can wear it inside. If you feel like, you can go and pat your wife, hahaha.
I: Okay fine, and if a person wants to buy them, how much can she buy them for?
R1: Right now, this ‘ingimeta’ is sold from 70,000/= if it is completely sewn. The artisan is here and if you tell her, “Mama, I want something like this, make it for me,” it is 70,000/= if paid in cash. If paid with a goat, it is a mid-sized one. But the cash price now is 70,000/=.
I: So, who buys them for the young ladies in the community?
R2: Her parent.
I: The mother or the father?
R2: The woman, especially her mother. Or the girl can go to her father and ask, “Dad, please buy it for me.” Then the mother will go and make it for her because men don’t know how to make it. And if the mother doesn’t know how, she will find someone who knows, and once it is finished, the girl will wear it.
I: So, it’s a lot of money, 70,000?
R1: Yes, 70,000/=.
I: And how much is this ‘emutha emborosi’ sold for?
R1: The sewing of this does not take a long time like the other one. This one takes only five days to complete.
I: Five days and it is complete?
R1: Even a week, but the other one can take up to two months just for making.
I: That is why it is sold at a high price?
R2: Yes, because you might finish making it and the owner says it should be changed to what she prefers—that’s why it is a little difficult.
I: And I see this is a bead, is it also made of skin?
R2: Some are made of skin, others are just woven with rope. Like this one here, it’s not skin, it’s just woven.
I: What rope do they use to weave with?
R1: A certain thin manila rope, bought from the shop.
I: But this one is from since 1905—were ropes available?
R1: They know there were ropes or maybe skin.
I: Mr. [anonymous], look at those ropes carefully. What are they made from, if you can identify them?
R1: This is sisal. They remove the outer layer and the fibers are what they use for sewing.
source: Amani-Stade Project / Massai Field Research 2023 / Interview No. 01
author: I: Mohamed Seif, R1, R2: Anonymous
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National Institute for Medical Research (NIMR)
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