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2023-06-09
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I: Okay, this is the last photo and if you fail to recognize it, we will be ending here, this photo has been registered with registration number 2018_18316_001, look and tell us what is that?
R: This is a basket which has been made from matete
I: The basket is it being made by the matete?
R: Eeeeh!
What is the local term of it after having been complete like that?
R: Kitezu
Kitezu?
R: Eeeh! Kitezu
What does it mean by kitezu?
R: Kitezu mean a basket, but is looks like a handbag eeh
That basket has been commonly produced by people of which tradition?
R: This was common to the Bena
The Bena
R: The Bena and so many people from the mainland such as Bena and Hehe
The Bena and Hehe
R: Yes
How was it being used?
R: This one has commonly been used in keeping some flour inside the house eeeh, just like how we keep it in bucket, this one was commonly in keeping some flour inside
I: For keeping some flour
R: But this one look like it has some spaces
I: It has some huge holes a bit
R: It has huge holes a bit you can even carry it with you to the farm for some vegetable harvesting, and maize, it has been used that way
I: So, it has different use?
R: Eeeeh!
I: Who were commonly using this object?
R: This the people from the mainland starting the Bena, Hehe, and some other community of Ngoni
I: The Bena, Hehe, and Ngoni
R: And the Fipa are the ones who commonly uses things like those eeeh! To the Sambaa it is not common, maybe has bought it but it is not our tradition
I: Okay, do you have Bena in here?
R: Eeeh they are many
I: We must get one Bena here
R: We do have tchem them in here, but they commonly use it in keeping some flour and harvesting some vegetables, because of the Bena also brought it for us as a gift eeeh
I: That is how you used it?
R: Eeeeh! We have been using it and they brought the big one which was used for domestic keeping and the small one was used in fetching some flour in the kitchen
I: Have ever used it as well?
R: Eeeh! I already used it
I: For how long did you use it?
R: Aahh! They last longer and some of them have been brought and we use them in the collection of charities at the church
I: For the current use?
R: Eeeeh!
I: But at that time, it was being used in keeping some flour and harvesting?
R: Eeeeh! It was being used during harvesting, the big ones were used in harvesting but the small one was for domestic use, for us the women from the mainland used to bring them for us to be used in the church, we used it in the collection of charities, but left using it because there are new systems of making some wood boxes eeh! But this is purely from the mainland
Of the mainland?
R: Eeeeh!
I: Between the males and the females who commonly used it?
R: It is the women
I: The women?
R: Eeeeh!
I: You said, how is it being called?
R: Kitezu
I: Kitezu
R: Eeeh! It is a handbag but for Bena would be able to know its name eeh
I: Okay, do you think it will reach a time when this object can no longer be used or needed?
R: They will not disappear
I: Why?
R: To disappear, they can disappear in those regions which are being brought, but there in the mainland because it is them who own minyaa, na matete, plus the techniques eeeh it can not disappear
I: To use that kitezu what else you were required to have?
R: In here it is only this one which can be used but when you move this finger eeh but in making it you must have a knife and a needle for making it stronger, but also here it is a rope which goes around it
I: Okay, who were the main user of it, were they the males or the females?
R: If it was inside even the males could use it, but the makers were the female
I: The makers were the women?
R: Eeeh
I: It was the women of which age specifically?
R: From the age of fifteen, ninenteen and above, up to the age of fifty, sixty and seventy like me
I: Why the women?
R: Because it has been used mostly in the kitchen works eeh
I: Kitchen works?
R: Yes
I: Okay, you said they have been using matete, what else which has been used in making that kitezu
R: From the top here, it is a big needle which has been used in forming bags
I: Needle?
R: And string
I: String?
R: Eeeh
I: Okay, the current vitezu which have been brought and being used into the churches, do they differ in terms of materials which was used in the past?
R: They are not differing, but things of the past are much stronger
I: Why things of the past were stronger?
R: In the past people used to make thing so that they can last longer but nowday things are being made to last short, it is business so that they can continue make other, so they’re in business
I: Okay, while looking into Kitezu of the past 100 years, if it is being brought into the current market how much would it be sold?
R: This one now it can be sold for ten up to fiteen thousand eeh
I: Ahaah
R: Ten to fifteen thousand
I: Ten to fifteen thousand?
R: Eeeeh
I: Okay, I would like to thank you for your today’s participation, you have helped us a lot, so thank you very much for consenting to take part
R: Thank you too
I: Okay, thank you
source: Amani-Stade Project / Amani Field Research 2023, Interview No. 03
author: I: Mohamed Seif, R: Anonymous
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