Time
2023-06-10
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I: Okay, I do have another photo here with registration number 2018_18279_001, look and tell us what is that?
R: Handbag
I: What is it?
R: Handbag
I: What is that language?
R: That is the modern term but, in the past, it was being called a bag (mfuko)
I: Why did you call it mfuko?
R: Our fellows have been calling it mkoba, that’s it eeeh!
I: So, mfuko and mkoba it is the same thing?
R: It is the same
I: Which community called it mkoba?
R: It is Sambaa
I: In Sambaa they call it mfuko?
R: Eeeeh!
I: In which regions do the mfuko’s been available?
R: We bought them from some places of Muheza in Tanga
I: Muheza and Tanga?
R: Eeeeh!
I: How was that mfuko used?
R: It was just a handbag to carry and go to the market with it
I: You carried it when you went to the market to do what with it?
R: To put things
I: Things like what?
R: Some vegetables, there are coconuts and all the things which were required in the house
I: That mkoba has another use other than being carried to the market?
R: This?
I: Eeeeh!
R: I don’t know how it has been used in other ways, I only know to put some things
I: Only to put some things?
R: Eeeeh! But there are some witchcraft mikoba, but for us we have been using it for putting some things
I: But the others have been using for what?
R: In witchcraft
I: Witchcraft?
R: Eeeeh! They put some things in there and it becomes mfuko
I: Mfuko?
R: Eeeeh!
I: Just tell us when it is mkoba, it has been used for what?
R: Inside
I: And if it is mfuko?
R: It is just the same, for inside use
I: Inside?
R: Eeeeh!
I: You said, mfuko is being used in witchcraft?
R: Eeeeh!
I: And mfuko has also been used in witchcraft?
R: Eeeeh! But in the past these kinds of bags were being used for putting their traditional healing things
I: The healing things?
R: Eeeeh!
I: Ahaah!
R: But we used it when we went to the market and to put some things, that’s it
I: In traditional healing what have they been putting in it?
R: There inside?
I: Eeeeh!
R: There are some horns you saw, and we had some sick people here and we passed there indeed, but now we are not
I: So, it was being used in two kinds of use?
R: Eeeeh!
I: To buy some things in the market?
R: And others have been putting their traditional healing
I: Their healing?
R: Eeeeh!
I: So, for those who are keeping their healing, are the traditional healers?
R: Eeeeh, the traditional healers
I: How is it being now?
R: They keep their things
I: And which gender commonly used this kind of mkoba?
R: It was the females
I: The females?
R: Eeeeh!
I: The females of which age?
R: It was the old women
I: The old women?
R: Yes, they were the ones who did that work with it eeeh!
I: Eeeeh!
I: Who makes these?
R: The people of mainland
I: Which communities specifically?
R: The ones which I mentioned
I: Can you please mention them again, I just forgot them?
R: The Fipa, the Mambwe, Nyakyusa and Nyamwanga
I: The Fipa are of Sumbawanga, what about the Nyakyusa?
R: It is the same, I don’t know how they call it
I: The Nyakyusa in Mbeya or Iringa, Nyamwanga
R: And the Mambwe
I: The Mambwe were the ones who commonly used that?
R: Eeeeh!
I: How have they commonly used for?
R: Even there in Monga they used to sell them
I: In the market?
R: Eeeeh!
I: The market of which day in Monga?
R: Saturday and Wednesday
I: Saturday and Wednesday?
R: Eeeeh!
I: Are they still bringing them today?
R: Nowadays ahhh! It has been a long time, even before I had two children
I: But the market is still there?
R: The market is still there, there is a huge hut there
I: But they no longer bring those kinds of mikoba?
R: Nothing is there nowadays
I: Aaaah!
R: Nowadays you can’t even find a floor mat
I: Do you think they are no longer used or?
R: They are no longer used, it died
I: So, even the traditional healers are not using it?
R: I don't know for the traditional healers eeeh! Because nowadays they say that they go with the internet
I: Hahahah! Even in the traditional healing they are using the internet?
R: The internet eeeh! Because everything changes
I: Hahahaha!
R: Because when he puts his mkoba, he is recognized as a traveler, but in fact, he is going to heal
I: Hahahaha! Now it is internet?
R: Eeeeh! Because if you put it that way, you will not be recognized as a traditional healer hahahah!
I: Hahahaha! In there they used to put some horns, what else has also been kept in it?
R: In there, there are some small bottles, some horns and we have been healed so we used to see them
I: What was the importance of this mkoba to the traditions of the people you mentioned?
R: It was being carried when someone went to the market
I: Okay, are they still being made today?
R: Nowadays, nothing
I: It was the people of which gender who used to make the mikoba?
R: The females
I: The females?
R: Eeeeh!
I: Why was it the females?
R: They were searching for money
I: Searching for money?
R: Eeeeh!
I: The males didn’t find some money?
R: The males were the drunkards
I: Hahahaha! So, it was the women who used to find some money in the past?
R: Eeeeh!
I: The males were only drinking beer?
R: Eeeeh!
I: Hahahaha! Okay, can you tell us which materials were being used in making it?
R: They had been using a needle, but not the normal needle eeeh! There was a special needle for it eeh
I: Which materials have been used in making this?
R: They carved it but it's not ukindu, this is that thing I told you which was being used in carving virago
I: Virago?
R: Eeeeh! These are the things found in the river
I: How do they call it?
R: I don’t know its name
I: Okay, in all those years the materials which have been used in making this thing have never been changing?
R: Eeeeh!
I: It has never changed?
R: No
I: Because nowadays there are some plastics
R: Eeeeh! Nowadays there is nothing
I: The handbag like that when brought into the market, for how much would you be ready to pay?
R: Now if they sell it to you, it could be five thousand, but in the past, it was one or three thousand
I: So, nowadays the price is high?
R: Eeeeh! You will be told five thousand
I: Why has the price been raised nowadays?
R: It’s the internet
I: Hahahaha! It is the internet which has raised the price?
R: Eeeeh! People are going with the internet
I: The internet?
R: Eeeeh!
I: Okay, mum, let us take this opportunity to thank you for your participation. You have helped us get the information of some photos, and you have contributed a lot
R: Is it?
I: Eeeeh! Thank you for your participation and when we come back next time, please receive us with two hands
R: Is it? Okay
I: Hahahaha!
source: Amani-Stade Project / Amani Field Research 2023
author: I: Mohamed Seif, R: Anonymous
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